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« on: July 20, 2008, 09:20:52 AM »

The following has been in the to-do list for a very long time:

+ multi-page browsing (N files/page)

I don't know what is involved or how much coding time it would take, but would it be possible to consider implementing it in a new beta?
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« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2008, 12:44:45 PM »

a template with multipage was already been developed by the french guys.
for a full support, we lack this feature
+ a variant of ?limit to trim after full listing

i guess it will come soon

about being implemented by the default template, still unsure, i guess i'll make a full rewrite using my new knowledge of dhtml and ajax, one of these days (i'm gonna cut you...)
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« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2008, 01:00:57 AM »

a template with multipage was already been developed by the french guys.

Yes, I remember seeing that about a year ago.  However, the problem is that the template used javascript for multipage.  There are alot of people who don't use javascript.
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« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2008, 02:16:52 AM »

a template with multipage was already been developed by the french guys.
Yes, I remember seeing that about a year ago.  However, the problem is that the template used javascript for multipage.  There are alot of people who don't use javascript.

The problem with it wasn't that it used javascript, it just simply didn't work very well, and wasn't very intuitive, there was no indication of the page you were on. It just sort of chopped the list into confusing pieces.

JavaScript is an old wife's tale of internet security, modern browsers like Opera, Firefox and IE7 don't suffer from the same problems with JavaScript that old browsers like IE6 (without security updates/software) used to. Sure we can continue to use <noscript/> to make things available the old fashion way, or to simply display a warning to turn JavaScript on, but the only way to get dynamic content and reduce the load on the HFS server is to use Macro along with AJAX/AHAH (JavaScript).

Multipage can be done entirely with AHAH and the Macro system, so to give a seamless view of the pages, and reduce the page refresh load on the server.

I can see a method that uses macro and page changes via url variables coming round before that, hopefully replicating something like the forum page system.
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« Reply #4 on: July 21, 2008, 04:32:25 AM »

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Multipage can be done entirely with AHAH and the Macro system, so to give a seamless view of the pages, and reduce the page refresh load on the server.
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I can see a method that uses macro and page changes via url variables coming round before that, hopefully replicating something like the forum page system.

If my memory is good, there is effectively a template modified by Mars (me)  to make this action, some persons tried but without reaching there too much.

It is effectively possible to use URL-Vars to arrive there but as says it TSG, it necessite a lot of resource on the server and the resultat is sometimes inconsistent.

As if to using an interface flash, it is not any more to use correctly hfs.

The only viable solution was to use the macro, by asking at one time all the information to show on the browser, and to leak out (with javascript) only that the user wished to see appearing.

The result gave the attached file.

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The problem with it wasn't that it used javascript, it just simply didn't work very well, and wasn't very intuitive, there was no indication of the page you were on. It just sort of chopped the list into confusing pieces.

On your place I shall not speak so fast and I shall try to understand its functioning:

intuitive: can be not but it uses at most macro
not functional: it remains to prove, especially with a minimum of javascript

Make we a version so functional (without replacing the macro available by a competition javascript) and we shall see the result. Wink


Last version here  http://www.rejetto.com/forum/index.php?topic=6021.msg1035792#msg1035792
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« Reply #5 on: July 21, 2008, 05:11:11 AM »

Yes, I remember seeing that about a year ago.  However, the problem is that the template used javascript for multipage.  There are alot of people who don't use javascript.

javascript was needed for decent performances without the missing feature i told you above.
it also needs some math, but this is already covered by macros.

I don't consider javascript a security threat more than flash, java, nowadays.
I've been keeping javascript low in the default tpl because of compatibility matters.
Given necessary compatibility, i have no reason to not use javascript.
If you'd like to change my mind you can post reliable information sources showing the threat.
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« Reply #5 on: July 21, 2008, 05:11:11 AM »

Do you like this software? Consider even $2
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« Reply #6 on: July 21, 2008, 10:42:43 AM »

it just simply didn't work very well, and wasn't very intuitive, there was no indication of the page you were on. It just sort of chopped the list into confusing pieces.

It also didn't remember the N files/page setting.  It had to be re-set for every folder browsed.
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« Reply #7 on: July 21, 2008, 12:49:09 PM »

it just simply didn't work very well, and wasn't very intuitive, there was no indication of the page you were on. It just sort of chopped the list into confusing pieces.

It also didn't remember the N files/page setting.  It had to be re-set for every folder browsed.

cookies were enough to fix this problem
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« Reply #8 on: July 21, 2008, 06:41:51 PM »

it just simply didn't work very well, and wasn't very intuitive, there was no indication of the page you were on. It just sort of chopped the list into confusing pieces.

It also didn't remember the N files/page setting.  It had to be re-set for every folder browsed.

cookies were enough to fix this problem

Yes that would probably be a solution.  However, you were talking about the multipage template made by the french guys in this thread.  The copy I have, which I think was their final version, doesn't use cookies.

Anyway, I was expecting a multipage N files/page global setting feature within hfs.exe itself.  All that was mentioned in this thread was incorporating into a template.  There are many different customised templates out there.
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« Reply #9 on: July 21, 2008, 07:11:52 PM »

it's because i'm not focusing on the default template at the moment.
i will in the future.
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« Reply #10 on: July 21, 2008, 07:23:45 PM »

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It also didn't remember the N files/page setting.  It had to be re-set for every folder browsed.
problem solved

24 hours of works to update and find all solution

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time to sleep Grin

* hfs.mode-page recur.tpl (19.96 KB - downloaded 308 times.)
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« Reply #11 on: September 10, 2008, 10:47:38 PM »


24 hours of works to update and find all solution

Respect my man.! Cool
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« Reply #12 on: October 22, 2010, 12:58:09 AM »

problem solved

24 hours of works to update and find all solution

 Wink

time to sleep Grin

How can i get this work in terayon template Huh?
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