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Offline jliverty

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Guys , please help me , i'm from indonesia n of course using Indonesia ISP provider , and im using Linksys WRT54G 1.0.0.6 for router in my house .

and i already configure my HFS the address using 192.168.1.102 with port 8080 but it won't work in other comp that using different ISP . but it work just fine in my comp , and also can't access using proxy bypass like from www.hidemyass.com , and i already called from my ISP provider and they say they using Dynamic Ip ,

so the question is , are HFS or other file server application can be work if the user using static IP from their ISP ? and there's nothing Dynamic IP can do with it to make it work ?

i just confusing how i can make this thing work with dynamic Ip from my isp ? i already tweak the WRT54G by adding 192.168.1.102 into the port forwarding .

and when i click SELF TEST in HFS with the ip 192.168.1.102 and port 8080 it passed the test succesfully , but the problem why people still can't access the link ?


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you server works fine from internet, by using your external IP as url

http://xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:8080/

add :8080/ after your ip is important or you have to use the port 80 with hfs.
« Last Edit: October 02, 2009, 04:38:54 PM by Mars »


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thx for the help , i've tried to add :8080 and the end of the external ip address ,,, but the thing that i want to ask is :

1. do i have always put number of the port in the end of ip address in URL ? like xxx.xxx.x.x:8080 ?
2. and my isp provider say their using Dynamic Ip , and logically it will change the ip address ( that located in ipconfig ) in random time , right ? so is there possible way to make it static ip ? my friend said in theory yes can change it to static ip by setting from the WRT54G in DHCP  , if you guys know how to set a dynamic ip into static ip , it would help me so much , cause i dun have lotz of experience in tweaking my WRT54G for DHCP ,except adding port forward in it .

right now the status of the web is workin fine , but the question , i'm just worried if the ip address from my isp provider change it again , so i have to set again from the beginning ?


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Welcome jilverty:

If you want people to access your server with ip , for exampkle 118.137.xxx.yyy:portnumber , then you must specify the portnumber everytime except if you use default port 80.

You can get a free domain from no-ip, DYNdns or others even if you do not have a static ip. You can then update this domain automatically with your actual ip using a program they provide you, or you can use hfs to update your domain with your actual ip.
So if you get a domain jliverty.noip.org , you can access your server using http://jliverty.noip.org:8080/

Some of this services allow redirection to a port you specify. If you update the service for example with your ip and port 8080, you can access your server with http://jliverty.noip.org/ even if you use port 8080 and not 80.
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thx for the explanation @bacter and @mars . so far i'm doing good with the port . but actually i made my ip to be static but changing in DHCP in my router .


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Normally, referring to a static IP, the IP received from the provider is meant: your external address that is used to access you from internet.

Another thing is the local ip of your server inside your lan. Any element of the local network can have, without using DHCP, a fixed ip, for example 192.168.1.2, 192,168.1.4 an so on. This ip has to be defined on each pc (or networkprinter, scanner...). In this case you have also to define the gateway and dns-server (this two would be set normally to 192.168.1.1). There is no need to disable the DHCP server of your router to do this.

Best is to set fixed ip's for fixed pc's of your lan, and to define in the router the address-space used by DHCP in a higher range (for example 192.168.1.60... 192.168.1.79), to allow access with portable devices using DHCP.
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so , thx for info @bacter . i appreciate with your help . thx very much ,

but i'm having problem now . when i check my ip from internet , it change in my last ip , but when i type ipconfig to check my ip it still the same , get my poin ? so it's like this , in ipconfig it say 192.168.1.1 but and afterlast time i check in what my ip in internet it said 118.137.197.112 but after next week when i check again my ip in internet it change on the end of the ip 118.137.197.120 , what should i do to make that ip permanent or maybe have a static url not a number for the URL ? 

and i've just register in no-ip , and what should i do next to setting if i want to have fixed url and fixed ip if from my ISP they method is using dynamic IP ?


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Local ip:
normally in the range 192.168.xx...   This ip can be assigned automatically by DHCP from the router, or you can set it on any device (PC, Printer..) on the local network. ipconfig shows always the ip of the networkcard in the pc. From outside the lan, local ip's can't be used to access a pc member of the lan.

External IP:
for your ISP in the range 118.137.xx.yy... This ip can be static, but for home connections this ip is normally dynamic and changes from time to time as you have observed. With this address, you cant access your server from inside the lan.

If you have registered a free domain on no-ip (for example jliverty.no-ip.org ) then you can access your server from internet using http://jliverty.no-ip.org:8080. To update your domain with your valid ip, you have to configure it in hfs:
switch to expert mode -> menu -> Dynamic DNS updater -> No-IP wizard...
Once done this, you don't need to worry about changes of your ip.
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@bacter thx for your attention and your info about my problem , i do really thx to you once again . i've done like what you said , just need to wait and see for a couple day is it work or not that i don't need to worried about the changes of the ip ,

so bottomline , you meant , if the ip 118.137.197.xx ( xx changes in certain time or day ) the no-ip will change and update the new ip so i can still connect to my HFS ? so i don't need to change it by manually right ? is my theory right ?


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so i don't need to change it by manually right ?

The Dynamic DNS updater will do this for you. :)
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